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Cameron
Intro
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Cameron
To kick things off, our first episode features a conversation that I had last year with local radio personality Zeb Bell. I am one of the organizers of the Burley Family and History Expo that we hold each year. And I sat down with Zeb, his wife and doctor history, last year to uncover some fascinating stories about Zeb ancestors. Discoveries made by the incredible experts at the Burley Family Research Center.
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Cameron
What I love most about this episode is how it reflects what happens at the center every day. Remarkable stories brought to light, shared and cherished the impact of knowing who we are and where we come from cannot be overstated. Now, without further ado, let’s dive in and begin this journey of storytelling, connection and discovery. Welcome to many Cancer Chronicles.
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Cameron
Yeah, so we’re just kind of taking a look at one of the the lines in your family. but yeah, this is for you to, to keep. Well, thank you.
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Zeb
I if you want to pass it over to my wife, she’s the.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
Hill entrepreneur.
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Cameron
You can probably even follow along, particularly for. But yeah, just kind of added some preliminary things, like how how familiar you are with your, your family. like, how far back do you remember or.
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Zeb
and honestly, I should probably pass my grandparents is where I.
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Cameron
Draw the line. Yeah.
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Zeb
And that would been my parents for, parents. My dad’s mother and father.
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Cameron
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Zeb
And, they came from Germany, and I really don’t know anything more about any of the past history of them. And then on my mother’s side, from I knew my grandfather and my grandmother much better than I knew my parents, my dad’s mom and dad.
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Cameron
Okay.
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Zeb
And, we spent a lot of time with them. My grandfather, Frank owned, what was at that time in the early or late 40s, early 50s and up through the 60s, actually the largest meat market in that part of the state of Wisconsin. And, as a matter of fact, one of his big, big sponsors was the Oscar Meyer people.
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Zeb
Oh, really? And, my grandfather was the first person to bring in the Oscar Meyer wiener truck.
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Cameron
Really?
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Zeb
And, I remember it quite well because when I was about 11 years old, I got a chance to get in there, and they took me all over my hometown to Fort Atkinson with that little slit and a little push back, and we could drive everybody and say, I want to wiener whistle, you know. And, that was.
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Cameron
Well, yeah, that’s definitely one of the memories I would want to add to your trip.
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Zeb
Oh, yeah. I they were really special. not to say that my dad’s parents were children, but they were harder to with. And, being from the old country and everything, and they were very rigid Germans, if you understand.
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Cameron
What I mean.
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Zeb
I mean, there was a line there if you didn’t step forward.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
Whereas my mother’s parents, the line kept moving.
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Cameron
Isn’t that funny how most marriages there, they’re one or the other. They’re. So, as far as, them coming from from Germany. So they spoke German. Were they principal German speakers or.
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Zeb
Sprechen she Deutsch? Yeah. I, I knew a couple of words in German and that’s it. But, when they get mad back there, mostly as grandkids, they used to have Thanksgivings, always at their house. and, my my family, my dad’s sister and my dad’s brother and all their families and some other aunts and extended family.
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Zeb
We all got together and there was about 35. They got together for Thanksgiving and the kids couldn’t do anything. I mean, you sat in a chair and you got up to go to the table, and then you got back in your chair and it was really rigid. Yeah. And when they get mad, they yell at you in German.
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Cameron
And I had no idea where to go. So. Yeah. Pennsylvania. Yeah, I love that. So did your your father speak German pretty well?
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Zeb
Yeah, he spoke quite a bit of it. not when we were little kids. He used to call us nicknames in German, and. And, then he would speak in German on occasion when he was around his mom. Yeah, but, no, my mother’s side was all English, and then they were in an easier going route. My grandpa and Grandma Richter on my mother’s side, and, my grandpa was always doing stuff for us kids.
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Zeb
I mean, he was a lot of fun to be around, so I don’t want to sound like him being a smooth go against the others. Yeah, I don’t know. He was always.
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Cameron
I love that. Yeah. so, Jamie was the one that did a lot of the research here, and she mainly focused on your paternal side. so that that family that came from Germany and stuff. So talking about them. But I had to dive into your maternal side as well. It sounds like you had, like, a a great relationship with them.
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Zeb
I did, unfortunately, there was a lot closer with, them, both my sister and myself stay over, and I quoted to em. And, one thing about my grandpa was that meat market. Every single Friday night in the summertime, he would close the meat market down at exactly 930, and I would go up to stay. Maybe for a Friday night.
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Zeb
And then also Saturday, if dad didn’t have anything for us to do at the farm, and he would bring home the biggest T-Bone steak I’d ever find. And my, when I was growing up, my favorite meal was T-Bone steaks, button mushrooms, fresh homemade sour dough biscuits. And then they’d have peach cobbler for dessert.
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Cameron
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Zeb
You know, I’ll tell you what. That’s.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
That’s what.
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Cameron
I would. I love that. Well, yeah. To have such, such great access to that. Yeah. Regular basis. So how often you have T-Bone steaks now?
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Zeb
You look at the War Department over there. No, we we we’re not suffering. You know, that’s actually a good thing as far as meals are concerned. on Sundays, we usually have, she’s really. She’ll kill a roast beef. That’s great. Yeah. That’s great. And all the trimmings and everything, but. No, that’s just the two of us. You know, we can get one canned soup really good, so we don’t want to.
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Zeb
We’re not too exorbitant.
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Cameron
Expensive. But, you know, things change after the kids fly the coop.
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Zeb
Well, I don’t know how old you are, but when you get to be my age, you just don’t rely on the big fancy meals, you know? So especially. And then, of course, we needed to be Kansas, you know, worried about food.
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Cameron
You spend your. Well, that’s what I was, So, taking a look back through with your your fan chart here. So this is, would be. Yeah. So Arlene Richter is your mother.
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Zeb
Mother, Marlene Richter. She was Frank and Irma’s Richter’s daughter.
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Cameron
Gotcha. Right. So as we’re going back. So this is your grandmother. Great. So your two great grandfather. Johannes. So this is a picture of him and the house that he know.
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Zeb
That she put these.
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Cameron
you see the paper? Yeah. But, yeah, we were able to to find, quite a few.
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Zeb
This is my great.
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Cameron
Grandfather, great grandfather, great great grandfather, the.
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Zeb
One Edsel. I remember that new.
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Cameron
Yeah. He’s the one that actually immigrated from and came over.
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Zeb
Here from Germany.
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Cameron
Yep. Wow. So they started out there in Germany. That’s their house that he was born and grew up in.
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Zeb
He looks like, Who’s the guy? Really? Western actor, I know him. The name’s on the tip of my tongue.
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Cameron
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Zeb
oh. He was in many, many movies. Anyway. That’s it. Yeah. That’s it. My goodness. What was his take?
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Cameron
So that was taken right around 1850.
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Zeb
Really?
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Cameron
In Germany, the witch picture. We’re talking about the house.
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Zeb
His picture.
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Cameron
Right. His picture. So that one is, more when he comes across over into, he comes here in New York and fills out his paperwork and he went to New York. That’s where he entered the states. and so those pictures of him and his family were taken right around then. So that would be a little bit later.
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Cameron
That’s the picture of the house was taken more in the 1850 timeframe.
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Zeb
Whoa.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
They’re looking good. Yes. That’s where I got it.
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Cameron
Yep. It’s actually wait till you see your grandmother. but yeah, they’re in. I haven’t even a waltz. Carlson. Prussia in Germany, That’s where they were at. And so, yeah, it’s kind of interesting. I was looking at some different people that came from that same settlement. there’s different sports and Olympians and different things. But one of them was, Schweppes.
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Cameron
Like the carbonated drink and stuff, you know, originated there right around the same time frame, just a couple streets over from your grandpa.
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Zeb
So I’m related to carbonated water?
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Cameron
Yeah, I’m just interested in the little connection.
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Zeb
Okay.
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Cameron
But. Yeah. And, you got a copy of all of this over there, but, anyway, this is his naturalization record, that he filled out. So this is his actual handwriting that he filled out, here, as he entered New York.
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Zeb
What year was that again?
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Cameron
So that was 1854.
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Zeb
What did they have to go through? They didn’t have an Ellis Island back then?
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Cameron
No.
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Zeb
They just came over on the boat and and got off grand.
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Cameron
Yeah. As far as I know. here we have got let me find exactly where in New York this is coming into. But, he puts that he intends to to go and live in Illinois.
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Zeb
In Illinois?
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
Okay. So the lake, there.
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Cameron
Yeah. I arrived in the city of New York, New York, on May 1848, and now I reside in the county of,
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Cameron
Illinois. And that is a bona fide my intention to become a citizen of the United States and renounce all allegiance to every foreign king, prince, potentate and state, especially the Prince of Hesse.
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Zeb
Wow. That’s interesting.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
And so far I had no idea. But I had heard the name Branson.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
Didn’t know where to put that. No, seriously, I didn’t. I heard Marshall and I. What side of the family was that on my mother’s.
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Cameron
On your father’s side.
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Zeb
So that was that’s. It was.
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Cameron
No, that’s on your mother’s side, Murray, sir. Yeah. Because your mother is Arlene and then her father and then his mother, and then her father and.
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Zeb
Yeah. So let me get in my mind’s eye, frame my grandfather. And his mother was the magnet married name?
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Cameron
yes, her name was Emma.
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Zeb
And his mother’s name was Emma.
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Cameron
Yeah. Frank. William. his mother name was Emma. Amelia Brandt. So.
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Zeb
We’ll pardon my being black and always. Sure, but where did she get the name? That through marriage to.
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Cameron
some magnet I don’t have on here. So I have her husband as George Richter and George. So Frank William Richter was right.
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Zeb
With my grandfather.
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Cameron
And his dad is George Richter, and his wife is Amelia Brown. So? So she might have gotten married after. But that’s something I need to check with Jamie on and see.
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Zeb
If there’s a connection. But we’re in a big machine night, Killian.
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Cameron
Yeah, I’m gonna have to do some more digging on that and find that out for you.
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Zeb
I think she lived alone. She used to have that ice. You know, it’s just a little square. And I’m 76 right now. I’m still younger. That can be.
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Cameron
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Zeb
She used to have a little restaurant in for that concern.
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Cameron
Oh, yeah.
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Zeb
And let me tell you something. You know what he did? You know? I mean.
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Cameron
No.
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Zeb
But he was she was a magnet.
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Cameron
Magnet at that time.
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Zeb
And then I’d really like to know about the transfer. So. Brad Salter, I don’t understand how that got incorporated in there. but that’s interesting.
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Cameron
Yeah. And I can look that up here in just a second and see if there’s any more. if maybe she got remarried after George died or or something because he died.
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Zeb
Like I did a little bit. She probably killed it.
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Cameron
But. Yeah. So her husband, George Richter, dies in 1904, and she passes away in 1958. So there’s quite a gap.
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Zeb
Okay, okay. Yeah. we didn’t call her and she didn’t go back in with all. She had another name, but that would have been right. Yeah. I was born in 47 and she died in 58. Right.
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Cameron
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Zeb
And I can remember on Main Street in Fort Atkinson she had a little restaurant that thank gosh it was little.
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Cameron
That killed too many.
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Zeb
People, one dying and.
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Cameron
That one.
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Zeb
I remember that. Yeah, yeah. This is crazy. I forgotten all about that stuff.
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Cameron
but yeah. And you said that you weren’t sure that was her name. Maybe George remarried, and that was a a step grandma. But, yeah, I don’t know.
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Zeb
I don’t I’m afraid you got me there.
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Cameron
yeah, I don’t know either, but we’ll we’ll we’ll take a look at it with.
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Zeb
Look. Was it Florence? Did you go to Florence with it?
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Zeb
Was Mandy in there asking me? Tough question.
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Cameron
I told you where we’re going to put you on the spot.
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Zeb
That was is interesting.
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Cameron
Yeah. Let me find that tree really quick. You know, 100%.
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Zeb
How do you find all this stuff?
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Cameron
Just a lot of digging through, through things. So on ancestry, a lot of people that, maybe grandkids from a different one or something have done some research and uploaded photos here and there. on FamilySearch we have extensive record collections that we’re looking through, newspaper articles and things. Immigration records like this one that we found was on FamilySearch.
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Zeb
And yeah, so both of my would have been, well, no great grandparents on my mother’s side. No, my dad. So no, I’m confused on my mother’s side. Yeah. Okay. Cool German.
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Cameron
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Zeb
But no we haven’t got to my dad yet.
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Cameron
Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So all of this is on your mother’s side here. But the paternal side of your mother. So you go going all through of Frank Richter there. So yeah. Let me find like over here.
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Zeb
Oh press. Yeah.
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Cameron
I think it’s just so fun to make these connections and, research things because, I don’t know, sometimes we get a little too disconnected. And in our own little world, you know, and and knowing that, the different struggles and journeys and fun things that are our ancestors.
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Zeb
Did you know, it’s interesting we can mention that you folks are going to do this for me. He said, would you mind? And I thought, you know, it’s really interesting because you’re about Christmas time.
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Cameron
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Zeb
I was having thoughts about really my family and then there’s hardly anybody left. The only one that’s left really is my Aunt Mary which is my mother Arlene’s sister.
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Cameron
Okay.
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Zeb
And she’s honey was she 93 now. Something like that. Yeah. Sharp as a tack. Still drives every day. It was everywhere. And she, I think is one of the last living.
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Cameron
Really? Yeah. Yeah. It’d be really fun to to get to know her and and record any of those stories that she might have before she.
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Zeb
Yeah. And, you know, I’ve asked her about that.
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Cameron
And.
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Zeb
We just haven’t. It’s too bad she’s too dumb to do it. Yeah. Do it.
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Cameron
You know for sure. So I just looked up, Emma. Brad. So. Okay. So, Frank, William Richter, your grandfather. Right. His mother is Amelia or Emma. Amelia brand. So. And she was married twice. Her first husband was George Richter, and her second husband was Grant Franklin Magnet.
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Zeb
Home run. What’s your first name?
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Cameron
Cameron.
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Zeb
Cameron.
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Cameron
You sure.
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Zeb
That’s all.
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Cameron
Right? I’ll make sure that you put that request in.
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Zeb
I knew that was in there. So the the first one was Branson’s. And he does.
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Cameron
so the first one was Richter.
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Zeb
Oh, I’m sorry. Richter I have the deed.
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Cameron
And he dies in 1904. And then let me see you when these ones were married and then in 1906. So she was single for two years as a widow. And then she remarries Grant magnet.
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Zeb
And when was Frank born?
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Cameron
Let’s see. Frank was born 1898. So your biological would be through the Richter there on something? Never was.
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Zeb
so that was his. His dad was the bread. So. No, no, the, the Richter, And then he died, and, great grandmother Magnet married.
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Cameron
A magnet to, Yeah. So she was born as a brown soul. She marries Richter and then remarries magnet.
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Zeb
Where did she come from?
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Cameron
so she is born in Wisconsin, in Brooksville, Wisconsin.
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Zeb
You know, you triggered another thing. Bridgeville. Okay. No, I remember mom saying that they had, you know, a family of Bridgeville.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
one summer. Oh, man. I was a little squirt. Yeah. They put. I was in the car when I went to grad school. I can’t even think we were, but it was in Wisconsin, so even there now, I don’t know, but I remember going to Bridgeville.
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Cameron
Yeah.
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Zeb
Oh.
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Cameron
Yeah. It says the county is Marquette. I don’t know if that brings up.
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Zeb
Okay. That would be on, oh. What East side of the state over Michigan.
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Cameron
Yeah. The thing. Yeah. yeah. And that’s where she’s also buried is over in Brooksville.
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Zeb
That’s right. I remember they took her body up there. Well, you know more about my family.
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Cameron
Okay. We’ll have to look it up. I got to see, but. Yeah. So, Worth coming down through a line between.
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Cameron
So these are, I remember, right? Oh, my.
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Zeb
Goodness.
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Cameron
Those are all of Emma’s siblings.
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Zeb
Now, did can explain to you that my real name is wrong as a bell.
00;21;50;26 – 00;21;52;02
Cameron
Yeah, we found that out. I don’t.
00;21;52;02 – 00;21;56;17
Zeb
Know that. That’s why I. You know, I got to tell you a little story. Just so you’re not confused.
00;21;56;18 – 00;21;57;23
Cameron
Yeah. Thank you.
00;21;57;25 – 00;22;18;12
Zeb
All right. My dead mother, of course. Mr. Lewis and Jerry. Isabel. Zeb zebit. Oh. Well, and then I stayed with that legal name until I went to college. and when I started playing baseball, and then also I was in communication school, and there were four runs.
00;22;18;18 – 00;22;20;22
Cameron
Up on the. Yeah.
00;22;20;25 – 00;22;40;16
Zeb
And it was kind of a standing joke that my records go wrong. I mean, I could have got killed, you know, it like this, you know. So I was in broadcasting school at the time, also was part of the University of Minnesota run Institute, and I just took my last name and chopped it to have, you know, added to be.
00;22;40;25 – 00;22;41;14
Cameron
so interesting.
00;22;41;21 – 00;23;05;26
Zeb
For a broadcasting. Well, then I was at Bell and then I came out here and in 69, you know, went to work for college radio and Twin. And the name just stuck. I mean, it was a great broadcasting name and it was great for country music. And then when I joined the turned into the rodeo business in 1971.
00;23;05;28 – 00;23;24;21
Zeb
Oh, shoot, that was a moneymaker for me. Yeah. And then in the mid 80s and 90s and early 2000, I did quite a bit of movie work with it. And there’s nobody else in Hollywood names that bill. Yeah. So it really has been an asset for me. I just love explaining.
00;23;24;22 – 00;23;25;21
Cameron
Yeah, that’s a perfect.
00;23;26;11 – 00;23;34;07
Zeb
oh, Uncle Herman. Holy cow. That was my fit for when great uncles on what side I heard.
00;23;34;07 – 00;23;39;01
Cameron
So this is Emma. So McKnight. These are her siblings.
00;23;39;03 – 00;23;41;06
Zeb
These are Emma’s kids.
00;23;41;06 – 00;23;42;13
Cameron
Siblings?
00;23;42;15 – 00;23;45;01
Zeb
Oh, okay.
00;23;45;03 – 00;23;47;04
Cameron
Yeah, yeah. So as soon as.
00;23;47;04 – 00;23;49;15
Zeb
James get in here.
00;23;49;17 – 00;24;02;24
Cameron
Though. So. Yeah, as soon as Johannes comes over, brings his family. they’re starting to take these pictures as they’re, emigrating. So they’re in Illinois. Somewhere in Wisconsin. But but.
00;24;02;24 – 00;24;04;27
Zeb
Yeah. And they all came from Germany.
00;24;05;00 – 00;24;07;19
Cameron
00;24;07;21 – 00;24;15;14
Zeb
I love John and Catherine. Have ten more children. Ten more. how many they have altogether?
00;24;15;16 – 00;24;18;03
Cameron
That’s a good question. I believe there was 12, but I could be wrong.
00;24;18;03 – 00;24;24;09
Zeb
Just very five. Doug, before the age of ten for. Holy cow.
00;24;24;16 – 00;24;41;15
Cameron
I tell you what, the 11 total. And. Yeah, a lot of them passed away. when? Before the age of ten. but, we’ve got photos of all the ones that that made it past that age to adulthood. somehow they they took almost pictures.
00;24;41;18 – 00;24;45;11
Zeb
Yeah. That’s amazing. Yes, I’ve heard so many.
00;24;45;11 – 00;24;47;09
Cameron
So that’s.
00;24;47;10 – 00;24;49;24
Zeb
Good. I’m really intrigued with this.
00;24;49;26 – 00;24;58;08
Cameron
Yeah. And so, let’s see. So this photo that we’ve got here is of Emma. And so she was born in 1875, in Briggsville.
00;24;58;09 – 00;25;00;20
Zeb
Now, this is my great grandmother.
00;25;00;25 – 00;25;23;15
Cameron
And great grandmother. And so she is pictured below with her mother and three of her brothers. And so some of these that we just seen, her father, Johannes, the one that brought the whole family over from Germany, died of heart disease when Emma was nine. So she lost her father really early on. she married at age 22.
00;25;24;21 – 00;25;44;10
Cameron
perhaps following picture is around that age. Oh. Of this one. So. Yeah. So this is her when she’s young. Her father has, already passed away. But this is her and her mother right there. down below the. The younger girl. So that’s your great grandmother, and that’s your great great grandmother.
00;25;44;12 – 00;25;56;03
Zeb
All these booklets and this home, as you can see.
00;25;56;05 – 00;26;00;10
Zeb
But how old was when she was? What age? Oh nine.
00;26;00;12 – 00;26;09;01
Cameron
Yeah, she was nine when her father passed away. So this is somewhat around that time frame. Yeah. We don’t have an exact date on the picture. Yeah.
00;26;09;03 – 00;26;12;07
Zeb
And this was taken in Bridgeville.
00;26;12;09 – 00;26;19;15
Cameron
So I get it. We’ll find out where that is. Yeah. You.
00;26;19;18 – 00;26;24;00
Zeb
Yeah. I wonder if you could get any better than that.
00;26;24;03 – 00;26;32;14
Cameron
I assume it’s a but. Yeah. So this is a picture of her Emma, when she, just right around the time she’s married.
00;26;32;15 – 00;26;33;15
Zeb
She was a good little lady.
00;26;33;16 – 00;26;41;13
Cameron
Yeah, she’s very beautiful. she got married at 22 years old. And so this is right around that time.
00;26;41;15 – 00;26;50;10
Zeb
Wow. She was 22 here. I haven’t seen that or been 18. Yeah, yeah.
00;26;50;12 – 00;26;52;23
Cameron
See, you’re putting me on the spot with math net.
00;26;52;23 – 00;26;56;18
Zeb
Okay. I’m sure. I think that picture was taken when she was nine.
00;26;56;20 – 00;27;13;06
Cameron
So 1875 when she’s 22, she’s going to be just right around the turn of the century there or it. No, not a century. 18 90. So that was close. 1897. Yeah, right.
00;27;13;08 – 00;27;16;25
Zeb
She’s a very attractive lady.
00;27;16;27 – 00;27;17;28
Cameron
Yeah, yeah.
00;27;18;00 – 00;27;24;02
Zeb
I’m I I’m impressed.
00;27;24;05 – 00;27;30;05
Cameron
Yeah. Let’s see what else we got here.
00;27;30;07 – 00;27;47;27
Cameron
And then your great grandfather, George Rector. So this is Emma’s husband. so she got married around this time frame with this photo, but he died really early on at age 31 of typhoid fever. And so he and Emma had one child, which is here.
00;27;48;17 – 00;27;48;29
Zeb
my great.
00;27;49;05 – 00;27;50;11
Cameron
Grandfather, Franklin.
00;27;50;11 – 00;27;51;06
Zeb
Frank.
00;27;51;08 – 00;28;02;10
Cameron
Yeah. And then. Oh, yeah. Here’s the magnet. So, Emma married to Grant Franklin Magnet two years later after the war.
00;28;02;12 – 00;28;06;27
Zeb
But who is it now? Two years later, Frank was already born.
00;28;07;10 – 00;28;07;21
Cameron
yeah.
00;28;07;21 – 00;28;11;11
Zeb
And he had the name of Victor.
00;28;11;14 – 00;28;12;13
Cameron
Yes.
00;28;12;15 – 00;28;18;26
Zeb
But she remarried. But my grandfather retained Richter instead of Mcniff.
00;28;19;08 – 00;28;21;18
Cameron
yeah. they never changed his name.
00;28;21;18 – 00;28;28;09
Zeb
Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
00;28;28;11 – 00;28;41;02
Cameron
And then this is the death certificate of her first husband when he dies of typhoid. it goes through and lists his characteristics and things, but.
00;28;41;05 – 00;28;43;05
Zeb
They were pretty simplistically accidental.
00;28;43;08 – 00;28;44;00
Cameron
Yep.
00;28;44;02 – 00;28;50;03
Zeb
That’s George Ricker. White male, Caucasian farmer.
00;28;50;05 – 00;28;55;11
Cameron
Learned woman who was one of the other guys.
00;28;55;11 – 00;29;04;10
Zeb
I mean, I’ll be there. In front of you. You run across the lot. The testimony before the typhoid.
00;29;04;13 – 00;29;09;05
Cameron
Yeah. Oh, but some freak out. Yeah, yeah.
00;29;09;07 – 00;29;13;22
Cameron
00;29;13;24 – 00;29;19;25
Zeb
Typhoid from a kill. Make that a woman. You.
00;29;19;27 – 00;29;21;09
Cameron
I guess there’s like complications.
00;29;21;09 – 00;29;27;21
Zeb
Of polio there. So I this home was. About ten days he laid.
00;29;27;21 – 00;29;33;22
Unknown
In the house. All the.
00;29;33;25 – 00;29;37;11
Zeb
While I don’t know why you from.
00;29;37;13 – 00;29;40;20
Cameron
That it’s amazing the things that we can do with with the technology we got.
00;29;40;21 – 00;29;41;19
Zeb
Really.
00;29;41;21 – 00;29;42;24
Cameron
But. Yeah.
00;29;42;26 – 00;29;45;06
Zeb
And what about my dad’s side?
00;29;45;20 – 00;30;03;00
Cameron
Your dad’s side? again? Jimmy, spent the time working mostly on your your maternal right there. with Arlene. So she was researching Arlene’s paternal, side there. So, yeah, we can do more research. And, let’s go into.
00;30;03;00 – 00;30;04;14
Zeb
What do I owe you guys for this?
00;30;04;18 – 00;30;08;17
Cameron
Oh, nothing. This is what we do. That’s what we do for free. Because we love it so much.
00;30;08;17 – 00;30;11;16
Zeb
Oh. Do you ever need any encouragement for people to come see you?
00;30;11;17 – 00;30;13;26
Cameron
Or if you want to, that’d be awesome.
00;30;14;00 – 00;30;26;14
Ken
You know, actually, this Saturday, we’re having this expo thing, a family history expo at the CSA building over here. Just thought, oh, we should mention that as well.
00;30;26;14 – 00;30;28;08
Zeb
I’d be happy to. We can talk about it tomorrow.
00;30;28;10 – 00;30;28;24
Ken
Okay.
00;30;28;26 – 00;30;31;11
Zeb
What? Do you have any written information on it?
00;30;31;12 – 00;30;32;15
Cameron
Yeah, I can get you some stuff.
00;30;32;16 – 00;30;34;15
Zeb
Do that if you would. I’ll take care of it.
00;30;34;17 – 00;31;02;29
Cameron
So you have, because we’re here, all the time. Sunday through Thursday. we we just provide one on one individual experience. We have classes, but we help people find the meaningful connection. the discovery screens out here that we’ll show you here in a bit are an excellent way to kind of get started. But like, one of the things that’s really fun is, to see how everybody’s related, like one of the before every kickoff, before every community event, we can see how we’re related to the people involved.
00;31;03;01 – 00;31;17;04
Cameron
So, like, you and I, I just clicked on this as Emma here, and, since we’ve built out the tree in there, I can click on View My Relationship and, it puts me and you as some cousins.
00;31;17;07 – 00;31;20;11
Zeb
But we’ll start. Well.
00;31;20;13 – 00;31;21;23
Zeb
Are you serious? Yeah.
00;31;21;25 – 00;31;23;18
Cameron
With the click of a button, we can see you’re.
00;31;23;18 – 00;31;24;17
Zeb
My seventh cousin.
00;31;24;21 – 00;31;31;05
Cameron
Yeah. Isn’t that so fun? We’d be able to do it with kin here. And he likes it.
00;31;31;12 – 00;31;32;20
Zeb
Back there too.
00;31;32;22 – 00;31;34;16
Ken
Okay, so see if there’s ever related.
00;31;34;18 – 00;31;35;24
Cameron
Yeah. Let’s see.
00;31;35;26 – 00;31;36;20
Ken
This individual.
00;31;36;22 – 00;31;38;27
Cameron
Do you happen to have your phone sign in with FamilySearch?
00;31;38;29 – 00;31;40;10
Ken
I don’t.
00;31;40;17 – 00;31;42;04
Cameron
we could go do it all later on.
00;31;42;04 – 00;31;43;06
Zeb
But, you know, if we are.
00;31;43;09 – 00;31;48;17
Cameron
Oh, man. And second cousins, it’s too close.
00;31;48;23 – 00;31;50;11
Zeb
Your really seventh cousins.
00;31;50;11 – 00;32;11;03
Cameron
Yeah. Yeah. It’s so interesting. The other day, I had, a lady in here from Kenya meet Elizabeth Hadley and, she really loves Derek Hough. Do you know Derek Hough? Dancing with the stars? Oh, yeah. Anyway, she she’s just the number one fan of Derek Hough. And I was like, did you know you were cousins? She was like, no.
00;32;11;05 – 00;32;25;27
Cameron
What? And so I pulled it up for whatever and utter that. Yep. Here here it’s cousins with Derek Hough. That’s the kind of experiences that we can provide here because we do the family history and see how everybody’s related. We. Yeah. It’s so fun.
00;32;25;29 – 00;32;27;11
Ken
I really like that family tree.
00;32;27;11 – 00;32;30;07
Cameron
Yeah. Click in the family tree.
00;32;30;09 – 00;32;32;16
Ken
Okay.
00;32;32;18 – 00;32;44;11
Cameron
And then you’ll have to sign in with, let’s see if you want to do or I don’t know. Is there a back button on that. Oh yeah. And then that sign in right there.
00;32;44;13 – 00;32;46;23
Ken
I’m not sure.
00;32;46;25 – 00;32;49;11
Cameron
If you have your log in information. Yeah.
00;32;49;13 – 00;32;53;10
Ken
Oh yeah. I can go right click.
00;32;53;12 – 00;33;11;27
Cameron
But yeah. And so like on these discovery screens out here, if you have a FamilySearch account and you’ve kind of worked on your, your family history there, you can sign in really quick and it’ll pull up how you’re related to every president of the United States, to inventors that.
00;33;11;29 – 00;33;15;09
Zeb
Don’t tell me, related to among.
00;33;15;11 – 00;33;19;01
Cameron
That would be, oh, no.
00;33;19;04 – 00;33;22;29
Zeb
No, God love that. And these meetings over.
00;33;23;02 – 00;33;25;05
Ken
I love that.
00;33;25;07 – 00;33;29;27
Cameron
Let me rephrase. If you’re related to any US presidents, it’ll tell you how.
00;33;30;06 – 00;33;32;20
Zeb
my mind works in strange ways. And that’s good.
00;33;32;23 – 00;33;36;03
Cameron
Right? But you’d be surprised how many, like, you.
00;33;36;03 – 00;33;39;29
Zeb
Know, that you mentioned. How did you, on Sundays find out that we were seven cousins?
00;33;40;21 – 00;34;06;22
Cameron
So I took, this Emma, Amelia and I pulled up her page, and there’s a simple little button there that I tap on to view my relationships. So since I’m signed in, it knows who I am. And then, it compares me to whoever has that button. And so I just click on that button and it’ll instantly pull up the relationship and show you exactly how you’re related.
00;34;06;24 – 00;34;27;05
Cameron
So that one was, through my maternal line, and it was through, Emma’s, paternal line. And so I have some coming descendants from, from Germany as well, and all that stuff are. All right. so if we you.
00;34;27;07 – 00;34;30;03
Zeb
I am blown away.
00;34;30;06 – 00;34;39;07
Cameron
See, phone numbers. I see the natural pull up millions.
00;34;39;09 – 00;34;40;20
Ken
Did you have another appointment that I.
00;34;40;20 – 00;34;41;12
Zeb
Did, yeah.
00;34;41;14 – 00;34;42;19
Ken
Oh, yeah, I did.
00;34;42;22 – 00;34;44;20
Cameron
Sorry about that. I didn’t even think doing that was all.
00;34;44;20 – 00;34;56;09
Zeb
That’s all right. This is so intriguing. But I get it. 3:00. I need to get to this. I’m a little late. It’s okay. But we also got. This is out there.
00;34;56;11 – 00;35;03;18
Cameron
Just. All right. People are related. Oh, well, I did a little bit more just. And we’re closer.
00;35;03;18 – 00;35;06;19
Zeb
But he and I are related in.
00;35;06;21 – 00;35;07;15
Ken
So.
00;35;07;17 – 00;35;07;28
Zeb
I just.
00;35;08;04 – 00;35;09;19
Cameron
Yeah, there is a ton here.
00;35;09;19 – 00;35;11;17
Zeb
We have a your head off.
00;35;11;19 – 00;35;12;16
Cameron
I got a moment.
00;35;12;16 – 00;35;12;18
Zeb
Of.
00;35;12;18 – 00;35;13;15
Cameron
Silence.
00;35;13;17 – 00;35;15;00
Ken
Kent cousins.
00;35;15;02 – 00;35;16;18
Cameron
10th cousins.
00;35;17;07 – 00;35;18;24
Zeb
wait till tomorrow.
00;35;18;24 – 00;35;21;05
Cameron
On the show.
00;35;21;07 – 00;35;25;12
Ken
Though. Should never have brought you here. And.
00;35;25;14 – 00;35;32;00
Cameron
But yeah. Isn’t it so interesting how quickly you can bring that up and and show closer.
00;35;32;03 – 00;35;36;25
Zeb
And you never once invited me.
00;35;36;27 – 00;35;40;09
Ken
We only go so far for Thanksgiving.
00;35;40;12 – 00;35;42;00
Cameron
Third cousins and below.
00;35;42;03 – 00;35;45;23
Zeb
That ruined my seat. Be on Thanksgiving.
00;35;45;25 – 00;35;49;10
Cameron
I got back.
00;35;49;13 – 00;35;55;08
Zeb
That’s amazing that his his family evidently stem from the old country.
00;35;55;20 – 00;36;01;05
Cameron
Yeah, there’s something in there. As we we’d be able to kind of take a look through it and see exactly where that relationship you.
00;36;01;05 – 00;36;05;00
Zeb
Find that chord with it, where everybody’s really.
00;36;05;14 – 00;36;16;03
Cameron
it happens here in, in the States, you know, with Caucasians as there’s typically 12th cousins and, and things like that. But to find 10th and seventh cousins. Yeah.
00;36;16;05 – 00;36;21;20
Zeb
The pretty the 10th cousin. We don’t have to get them Christmas for a.
00;36;21;23 – 00;36;22;23
Cameron
I’m.
00;36;22;26 – 00;36;26;11
Ken
Just wondering where done that. But where did that happen.
00;36;26;11 – 00;36;29;13
Cameron
This is some dangerous information. Yeah that’s going to hurt them all until you.
00;36;29;14 – 00;36;31;16
Zeb
Snow 3413.
00;36;31;18 – 00;36;32;27
Ken
Is mine. We’re from England.
00;36;33;24 – 00;36;42;20
Cameron
Okay, so somehow they must have, married in with some of the German families or something that came over. Yeah, we take a look into it, but. Yeah.
00;36;42;23 – 00;36;48;02
Zeb
Well, you’re descent, are you? You’re, Scottish or British?
00;36;48;02 – 00;36;48;21
Ken
English.
00;36;48;21 – 00;36;49;08
Zeb
English?
00;36;49;09 – 00;36;50;19
Cameron
Yeah. No.
00;36;50;21 – 00;36;55;10
Ken
It would be interesting if my wife, Angie. Hers is German.
00;36;55;12 – 00;36;56;01
Cameron
Oh.
00;36;56;03 – 00;36;57;16
Ken
The interesting. So she’s.
00;36;57;18 – 00;37;06;02
Zeb
Well, now she may be on my dad’s side with Albert. now with a grandfather.
00;37;06;05 – 00;37;07;25
Cameron
Like they have a facility.
00;37;07;27 – 00;37;11;16
Zeb
Maybe they’re still in relationship to your.
00;37;11;23 – 00;37;15;06
Cameron
And they. Yeah, right.
00;37;15;09 – 00;37;21;09
Zeb
Oh, because I’m. I’m going to sleep tonight worrying about tomorrow’s blueprints.
00;37;21;11 – 00;37;25;12
Cameron
But. Yeah. And we can always do more extensive research in different parts of your tree.
00;37;25;14 – 00;37;50;02
Zeb
I really like to know my dad’s family. Yeah. isn’t it amazing what you’re going to think? Listen, if you’re saying. But I can’t remember. My grandmother’s the Sybil’s first name. Oh, I don’t I can’t remember it. And then. And she passed away when I was. Oh, my goodness, she passed away when I was probably in grade school.
00;37;50;04 – 00;37;53;19
Zeb
Yeah. And so we’re talking back in her 50s.
00;37;53;25 – 00;37;55;20
Cameron
Yeah. So.
00;37;55;22 – 00;38;03;04
Zeb
And I can’t remember her first name. Well I remember my grandfather, I know him, my dad’s father.
00;38;03;06 – 00;38;04;17
Cameron
I don’t like.
00;38;04;19 – 00;38;28;27
Zeb
And, you know, I remember it. Well, he was talking about a gruff old man. I mean, seriously, yeah, that’s what my dad got is. And then my dad boxed in. Yeah. After World War two. It didn’t help his personality, but, this is so interesting. Yeah, I really like him.
00;38;29;00 – 00;38;32;26
Cameron
Well, yeah, for sure. We’ll be in contact and we can find some more fun.
00;38;32;26 – 00;38;37;24
Zeb
Family stories all over the place. All of a sudden that comes out be Obama. You’re not.
00;38;37;29 – 00;38;42;04
Cameron
Doing. Oh, sit down.
00;38;42;15 – 00;38;42;20
Ken
I.
00;38;42;20 – 00;38;44;10
Cameron
Would love that.
00;38;44;13 – 00;38;45;14
Ken
Or Biden.
00;38;45;16 – 00;38;51;00
Cameron
Oh yeah. That’s it. More possibility right there because. But you never.
00;38;51;00 – 00;38;54;04
Zeb
Know. I don’t know who’d be related to one.
00;38;54;07 – 00;38;54;13
Cameron
Thing.
00;38;54;18 – 00;39;00;26
Zeb
But seriously, have you got the information printed up? I will really plug that for you. I’d be more.
00;39;00;29 – 00;39;04;17
Cameron
I don’t have it right this minute, but I’ll get it to Ken.
00;39;04;19 – 00;39;06;22
Zeb
You and bring it to Reagan tomorrow. Yeah, yeah.
00;39;06;22 – 00;39;23;11
Cameron
So what we’re doing over at the Expo, because we’re here all the time. But once a year, we throw this annual expo where we bring in local people as as well as experts around the country, and they come teach how to do this, how to connect with your family, how to to do different things, how to use the different programs.
00;39;23;18 – 00;39;39;11
Cameron
If you’re interested in like the DNA, aspect of things, we have classes, just about everything as well as this year we’re actually doing history classes. So like Ken’s class, he’s doing a virtual tour of Casa County, kind of a thing. So it’s a family and history expo.
00;39;39;11 – 00;39;49;21
Zeb
He does a great job. I’m honored to have him on my show. Yeah. And so our history was kind of a funny story the way it started. Yeah. And so,
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Ken
So Rick Parker, Hewlett Packard.
00;39;51;19 – 00;39;52;05
Zeb
Oh, very.
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Ken
Well. So he’s going to do a class right ahead of mine. He’s doing a class on, I think the museum, and I’m doing the Casa County tour, so I’m going to do two classes back to that.
00;40;03;18 – 00;40;08;14
Zeb
See, Rick was the egg and egg man. CSI.
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Ken
Oh.
00;40;09;16 – 00;40;36;21
Zeb
Did you know that my years really where the l was going to school with CSI? She was a cheerleader. That CSI for the CSO basketball team. Rick was the head instructor at the side. And he retained that job until probably the mid to late or 70s. And then in the mid to late 70s, they built after the huge fire at Frontier Field.
00;40;36;24 – 00;41;11;03
Zeb
I don’t know if you remember that. I know where the explosives. Oh, that used to be a huge they called it Frontier Field and it was a stable for over 100 horses and all the businesspeople and everybody that lived in town kept their horses until then. They had an outdoor arena and everything. Right. So when you ran into the stalls, well, it burned down or killed a bunch of horses and, Rick was, it was his job to run the Expo Center until they hired Sean Davis.
00;41;11;08 – 00;41;21;06
Zeb
Oh, and Sean came in and took over for the rodeo team. But I’ve known Rick since 1947.
00;41;21;08 – 00;41;23;00
Cameron
Three. Yeah.
00;41;23;02 – 00;41;25;22
Zeb
Good guy. Really sharp guy.
00;41;25;24 – 00;41;26;27
Cameron
Okay.
00;41;26;29 – 00;41;31;01
Ken
And so he spoke to live right next door to where my life grew up going.
00;41;31;03 – 00;41;32;05
Zeb
Really? Are they still.
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Cameron
Going?
00;41;33;12 – 00;41;39;25
Ken
I don’t know, I don’t know about this, folks. I should say. Yeah. They were next door neighbors to my wife.
00;41;39;27 – 00;41;54;26
Zeb
This is intriguing to me because, like, the family is intriguing to me. I mean, they were the second family. And so we’re we’re on the north side. Is that right? There was the like these first and then your grandpa on the north side over there.
00;41;54;28 – 00;42;02;27
Cameron
And that’s one thing that he’s teaching two different classes, and one of them is a history of the founders of the North Side. I’d be interested to see if they.
00;42;03;00 – 00;42;08;10
Zeb
You ever hear of her. And that wrote a lot of books called Virginia Records.
00;42;08;17 – 00;42;14;17
Cameron
Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I’ve heard those. That’s her. Oh, yeah. Oh, that’s so funny.
00;42;14;20 – 00;42;37;15
Zeb
Yeah, it’s funny story. You know, we didn’t like each other in Virginia. Just. No, seriously, we were in the same room for five minutes. That was four minutes too long. And then all of a sudden, I can’t remember what happened. But she got sick, and she. And we went over to see her, maybe in their house. And I didn’t want to go.
00;42;37;15 – 00;43;01;25
Zeb
It was like, cool. You know, they’d get such a lot of to go in there. And from that meeting that we had at her house that we became best friends. And then when her husband died, Claire, they moved her into a rest home over by the canyon rim. And I can’t remember. I don’t know which one of us is.
00;43;01;25 – 00;43;14;20
Zeb
We usually go up there and see her, and she had just finished her last book at that time. Yeah, girl, I would sit and talk for hours about. I just wish we’d have been closer in years.
00;43;14;20 – 00;43;19;05
Ken
Or I never knew her. But I know the name and I know she was in a lot of history stuff.
00;43;19;05 – 00;43;29;21
Zeb
She was sure. Yeah. that she wrote a lot of interesting books on. Like, I felt bad that we couldn’t have been closer because she was really something that her grandfather, Julia.
00;43;29;23 – 00;43;36;02
Ken
Ricketts, bought. Sorry.
00;43;36;04 – 00;43;38;28
Zeb
William Ranger or was that Bonanza?
00;43;39;00 – 00;43;40;23
Cameron
Oh, okay. Yeah.
00;43;40;27 – 00;44;10;14
Zeb
And her grandfather Julian died when he was 98, 97, and they came over and settled on the north side. I really I don’t want to read about that. Yeah, you know for sure. Well, I’m taking too much. You. This has been so interesting for me. No, seriously, I will do anything I can to help promote you. So just if you’d give that to Ken, I would very much appreciate if there’s any kind of charges or.
00;44;10;14 – 00;44;12;02
Zeb
Or else make it right.
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Cameron
Oh, no, not at all. Everything we do is very good.
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Zeb
God.
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Cameron
Thank you, thank you. Somebody in.
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Cameron
You’ve been listening to Mini Cassia Chronicles. I am your host, Cameron Briggs. It’s been a pleasure to be in your earbuds today. For show notes, transcripts, translations and more, visit our website MiniCassiaChronicles.com and be sure to fill out our form if you have a story you’d like to share. Have a great weekend!
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